EP 77 · 2024-10-29 · 1:31:57
How 3D Renders & Virtual Tours De-Risk Construction | Luminous Labs (Halifax)
Luminous Labs founders return on how 3D rendering de-risks Atlantic construction.
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0:05Welcome back: two years of Luminous Labs — Hosts reintroduce sponsors Nick and Greg, who recap a busy two years of growth, NDA-bound projects now shareable, and the ups and downs of running the rendering business.4:41Scaling up then scaling back — They explain laying off staff not for lack of work but because 2023 lacked the virtual-tour jobs they had hired and trained a local team for; they now keep that talent as local contractors for control over equipment and downtime.7:44The software and hardware stack — Lumion as the beginner on-ramp, the move to Unreal Engine and Blender with swappable render engines (Octane, Corona, 3ds Max), Revit becoming the industry standard, and the near-real-time trajectory of rendering as GPUs double every two years.14:06AR, retrofits, and reaching into construction — Meta vs Apple AR glasses, a vision of overlaying 3D models onto stud walls on site, retrofit/heritage risk, and smarter spaces' LiDAR slab and pipe scanning that could have saved Nick's own building from ripping up floors.20:41Virtual production and sun studies — How the same game-engine tech behind The Mandalorian and Dune pre-production powers their renders, including accurate geo-tied sun studies they ran on the Canard Southwest art installation.27:41Working from Revit and getting the full package — Why they shell-model over buggy Revit geometry, the 'send us everything / 100 PDFs over one' philosophy, and the detective-work of filling document gaps before assuming and backtracking.38:41Materials, samples, and the CGI catalog problem — Matching spec products exactly via manufacturer slabs and upscaling, why Shaw contract's tileable textures are a pleasure, color-calibration limits of client TVs, and Ikea's missed CGI-model business opportunity.48:39Rendering as a communication and CRM platform — Renders as an objective communication tool across design/ownership/construction, plus their roadmap to tie virtual tours into a front-end sales experience and back-end leasing CRM with tenant analytics.53:45Beyond buildings: golf courses, ski hills, developments — Procedural ski-map system for Wentworth, golf-course rendering as an undervalued niche, and reframing renders as durable building assets and internal decision tools, not just marketing pictures.1:02:00The business case: an insurance policy for developers — Pitching rendering as a budgeted line item alongside architecture, how catching a hardwood-supply shortfall on paper saves six figures, and elevating a developer's brand with cohesive rendered floor plans and top-downs.1:09:30Local landmarks and respect for the trades — Tower 177 drone views, Richmond Yards, the Canard, and Marlstone; the surreal experience of walking finished buildings; and genuine respect for foremen who get 'one kick at the can' with no undo.1:15:30COVID, virtual tours as an asset, and the AI take — How COVID accelerated the company and made virtual tours essential, closing with a candid hot take that the current AI hype is borderline marketing, plus thanks to the guests as friends and sponsors.1:26:53Post-show: the EY award and a healthy-margin philosophy — An informal coda on the EY Entrepreneur of the Year top-30 nomination, competing against Hilton and a Saskatchewan mushroom farm, and why a healthy profit margin matters more than headline revenue, plus the shed-office power-circuit story.
// THE INTRO
Returning guests and AC Media sponsors Nick Leblanc and Greg Miles of Luminous Labs revisit two years of growth in high-end architectural rendering, 3D virtual tours, and real-time visualization for the Halifax development market. They unpack their tech stack (Unreal Engine, Blender, Revit), why they scaled their team up then back down, and how visualization catches costly mistakes before concrete is poured. The conversation widens into AR on job sites, retrofit risk, material sourcing, and their recent EY Entrepreneur of the Year top-30 nod. It is a community-first, founder-journey episode that doubles as a sponsor showcase.
// THE LESSONS
See all 17 lessons ▸Lay off when the job mix shifts, not just when work dries up; you can be slammed yet have nothing delegable.
“we didn't have any work to give them but we were basically slammed like 80 hours 90 hours a week”
Keep specialized contractors local so you can fix their equipment same-day and avoid week-long downtime.
“if something breaks I can go and buy it and fix it within a couple of hours and that's really important to not have that downtime”
Track adjacent tech even when it doesn't apply yet; new tool updates compound tiny per-unit time savings at scale.
“if you're doing 20 units like maybe only save like 10 minutes but there's 20 units right so it's like everything starts to add up”
Scan concrete slabs and pipe runs as they go up; catching dips early beats ripping out finished floors later.
“if they would have spent a little bit at the beginning when everything was going up they would have been able to say that's not flat”
Shell-model over imported Revit geometry rather than rendering it; CAD/Revit meshes are buggy and break materials and lighting.
“it's usually really buggy and just not very clean geometry so we'll just like model over top of it almost like a shell”
Ask clients for everything, even files that seem irrelevant; assuming missing details forces costly rework.
“I would much rather receive like 100 PDFs than just receive one and then we're trying kind to fill in the blanks”
Nail the big layout in early drafts first so feedback shrinks to fine details, signaling the work is correct.
“the better you do the smaller the notes are going to get and the more like fine that they become”
Source spec materials from manufacturer slabs and upscale crappy web images; reusable tileable textures make sourcing fast.
“they have eight tiles and then with those eight tiles we can basically make all of our planks use one of them”
Suppliers who put high-quality photos and samples online win specs; ones that don't lose decisions made on the fly.
“if you don't have something online like it's not going to help you so it's pretty rare that there's nothing on their website”
Position visualization as an insurance policy and budgeted line item alongside architecture, not a luxury picture.
“it kind of is an insurance policy like if you actually give us all the information we need and we do things the right way”
Quantify ROI in the client's own numbers; swapping a material on paper can save six figures versus tearing out built work.
“if we're saving you know $100,000 or $200,000 or whatever that amount is okay well that's a valuable tradeoff”
Sell renders as a durable building asset that holds up for a decade, not a one-time marketing spend.
“if you think about it more as an asset for the building these virtual tours aren't going to go anywhere”
Communication, not technical skill, separates top firms; renders remove subjectivity so every party sees one truth.
“it's the companies that can communicate the best that reach the top in especially in that realm in our industry”
A local edge matters: an advanced drone license lets you capture true eye-level window views remote firms can't.
“Nick has his Advanced drone license so we have a bit more flexibility of what we're allowed to do with our drones”
Carve a niche from incumbents' weak spots; golf-course architects use dated software, leaving room for high-quality renders.
“that software is pretty dated so you don't really see a lot of high quality images”
Prioritize healthy profit margins over headline revenue so you don't need millions just to keep the lights on.
“we have a much healthier profit margin so we don't have to make you know $2 million to keep the lights on”
// CLIPS FROM THIS EPISODE
Emotional · 1:39
“there are days where you know you wonder why we started a business”
Story · 2:38
“even some of the ones that are now like just almost recently that we can share them”
Story · 4:45
“it was strange because it wasnt actually because we didnt have enough work”
Framework · 6:54
“theyre all local like everyone that we have doing contract work lives in Halifax or Dartmouth”
Hot take · 18:53
“I could see in like even 10 years that AR glasses become very popular on construction sites”
Framework · 21:04
“those are high-risk projects because you get into that demolition you dont know how its going to go”
Story · 21:56
“we even came across some videos on YouTube of these guys from Pennsylvania”
Story · 24:36
“theyre in my apartment building now ripping up a lot of the ceilings and the floors”
Hot take · 46:06
“we dont give out 3D models because we dont want people basically ripping them off”
Story · 55:36
“a few kind of unique ones weve been doing is ski hills around here”
Framework · 1:04:38
“if we can generate value for you internally and externally through marketing or helping you pick materials”
Emotional · 1:15:16
“we have the luxury of being able to hit control Z and undoing like they cant undo anything”
Hot take · 1:18:30
“I think its a borderline scam its a marketing word”
Framework · 1:28:30
“there could be a company where you say okay they make 50 million in revenue”
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// FEATURED BUSINESSES
// FACT-CHECKED ✓ web-verified, with sources
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Luminous Labs was chosen by EY for the top 30 entrepreneurs of 2024 for Nova Scotia (EY Entrepreneur of the Year nomination)
EY Atlantic 2024 finalist page lists Nick LeBlanc and Gregory Miles of Luminous Labs Inc. The Atlantic region had 29 finalists total in 2024, so 'top 30' is approximately accurate. They were finalists, not winners — the episode description says 'top 30 entrepreneurs' which aligns with finalist statu…
SOURCE ▸✓ VERIFIED
GPUs double every two years, pushing rendering toward near-real-time speeds
Directionally accurate and conservative — 'Huang's Law' (named for Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang) states GPU performance more than doubles every two years, exceeding the classic Moore's Law doubling. The claim understates GPU gains if anything. The trajectory toward real-time rendering is well-supported b…
SOURCE ▸// COMPANIES & ORGS ✓ verified
Luminous Labs ▸Nick LeBlancGregory MilesSmarter Spaces Inc. ▸Cunard ResidencesOne77Richmond YardsSki WentworthThe Marlstone
// PROJECTS NAMED
One77Richmond YardsCunard ResidencesThe MarlstoneAlexanderMilestone
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